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is through. so it's huge, wolf. it's huge. >> huge. we're going to be watching. lara, thanks very, very much. world cup fever. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com wolf, thank you so much. here we go. on this friday, i'm brooke baldwin. we begin with this new development just into us here at cnn. russia's vladimir putin has called iraq's prime minister, nuri al maliki, pledging his support for the iraqi government. this development as the first contingent of as many as 300 u.s. military advisers heads to iraq. they could land as early as tomorrow. really the big headline today here on this story, chemical weapons. extremists fighters have taken a former chemical weapons production plant that still
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contains a stockpile of old weapons. in fact, you are looking at pictures. we went into the cnn vault today. this is back from -- a cnn crew shot this back in 2002. also the state department quick to shoot down the threat of these chemical weapons, saying it would be, quote, very difficult if not impossible to safely move the materials. but we did a little digging today. so according to this 2007 cia report, this facility is anything but safe. let me just read part of this report for you. quote, the most dangerous chemical munitions have been declared to the u.n. and are sealed in bunkers. although declared, the bunkers' contents have yet to be confirmed. these areas of the compound pose a hazard to civilians and potential black marketers. among the chemical agents once produced in this sprawling complex, you have mustard gas, sarin and vx. this is a nerve agent. bigger picture, arwa damon, let me bring you in. senior international correspondent and lieutenant general mark hurtling rejoining us this week, commander of u.s.
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forces in iraq from 2007 to 2009. welcome to both of you. arwa, let me just begin with, you have been to this -- this plant. what was it like? and could these terrorists, could this isis group weaponize the chemicals? >> reporter: well, to start with your second question first, it's highly unlikely that whatever chemical materials have been left behind could in their current form be manufactured into some sort of chemical weapon. that's not to say, though, that it's entirely impossible. frankly, i'm not an expert. but from what we know about the materials that are stored there, this was a site that was visited by the united nations weapons inspectors back in 2002. our own nic robertson going along with them. even back then they were deemed not to be of chemical weapons manufacturing grade in the sense that they were not actually immediately capable of turning these into any sort of weapon that would potentially be
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delivering that deadly load. and that they do pose more of a danger to those who might try to move them at this stage. that being said, the complex itself, massive, sprawling. went there a few years ago. turned into an iraqi air base. meant to be the headquarters for the iraqi air forces. the fact that isis has taken it over, i think, is just another indication of how little control the iraq security forces have in parts of the country. but also the potential dangers, the very real dangers that lie out there by having these materials in the hands of that kind of an organization. >> okay. so, arwa, stand by. i've got another question for you. general, just on this same notion that they have this -- this compound, this chemical weapons compound, state department doesn't seem too concerned. you said you heard arwa say highly unlikely they could weaponize them. are you concerned at all? >> i'm not, brooke. i've been to methana as well. in fact, we had military forces stationed near there out of the first armored division in 2007. it has been a cleared compound.
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there are some remnants of items there. but not anything that's dangerous. i think arwa put it quite frankly. that this is not something to be of a major concern. it's dangerous because some of those areas are sealed. but i actually think part of the reason for these terrorists going there is because of some of the facilities are there that they might be using and the potential for using that as a staging area for, perhaps, attacks into western -- excuse me. eastern baghdad. >> so less about the actual chemical weapons and more about just the sheer physicality, the compound itself. general, let me stay with you. i'm about to talk to michael holmes in a minute. i know he was imbedded with you some years ago. he was bringing up this great point which is we have this, you know, 300 or so military advisers, u.s. military advisers, headed to iraq. but what is it that they will share with, teach, work in tandem with these iraqis that the americans didn't do for a decade? >> well, you're likely going to
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see these troopers, very confident special forces, special operating forces, not only helping the iraqi forces in their maneuver, perhaps in their sin kronizations of various aspects of combat power, even things like close air -- helping them with close air support, artillery firing, maneuvering against the enemy. but we had the similar forces there in 2007, 2008 and for most of the conflict there. these are great soldiers. they will not only help the iraqis, but truthfully they will also provide some significant intelligence to the united states, too. they have extremely good communication packages, both satellite intel packages and conventional packages which can link into all of u.s. intelligence assets. so i think they're feeding information to the united states on the status of the enemy and also the status of the iraqi security forces. >> and -- no.
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i was just saying, therefore that intelligence could possibly use down the road for these targeted air strikes that have been discussed. not definite. >> exactly. >> arwa -- go ahead. finish your thought, general. >> no. part of the president's comments yesterday were -- were helping with intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance. it's not just for the iraqis. it's for us. because as he also said in his speech yesterday, that the movement of isis forces and other insurgents are a national security concern for the united states. >> of course. and, arwa, on isis, we know, we've talked a lot about the sophistication. also as it pertains to their role in social media. and so they've, you know, posted these videos. among them this recruitment video here out recently. are you getting a sense that these -- these videos are successful? that people are defecting to isis? particularly the sunnis who may feel they have no other choice but to join? >> reporter: well, brooke, when it comes to isis's activities on social media and those fair lly
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slick videos that they are putting together, targeted specifically toward a western potential jihadi audience, they are exhibiting a much greater level of sophistication than we have seen as of yet. they are significantly more sophisticated than al qaeda and iraq, for example. and isis has managed to attract more foreign fighters, more europeans and westerners, into the battlefield than al qaeda and iraq ever did. so it's a much more developed organization that the iraqi security forces are up against than the american military was ever facing during its -- its decade plus in iraq. so that being said, what kind of an impact is it having in terms of recruitment on the ground? look, most people are going to join isis are not necessarily going to join it because it has a very slick production video that's out there or because they've launched a eed a massiv twitter campaign. they're going to do so because they buy into the radicalized ideolo ideology. if one wants to defeat isis they
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need to defeat what allows the ideology to exist. >> of all languages they chose, it was in english. arwa damon, thank you. mark hertling, thank you very much. i have someone else here sitting next to me. deadly clashes in the streets, bombs dropping from government planes, militants seizing control of their towns. this is the life of iraqi citizens. we have just learned the united nations estimates more than 1 million iraqis have fled their homes since the start of this year. half of those got out this month. and many are forced to live in these makeshift refugee camps. doctors, teachers, children, wary from fighting for years and years are now facing this new possible threat of a civil war. michael holmes joins me now. we've been talking all week long. you were in iraq every year of the war. been there 14 times. i so appreciated you e-mailing me after we were on tv one day this week. because you said, brooke, we need to focus -- we talk so much about military and figure heads and leaders.
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the people of iraq are suffering. >> yeah. it's something i think we need to remind ourselves every now and then. i think you can look at something like iraq and say a bunch of iraqis fighting each other and killing each other. why should we care? and we do. we talk about armies and militants and attacks and things like that. and i'll tell you, in 30 years of going to conflicts from rwanda to libya to afghanistan to the west bank to gaza to iraq, the one thing i always come home most impacted by is the regular people. you know, the vast majority of people in iraq and all these other places, even the west bank or gaza, they want nothing of the nonsense of war. they want what you and i want. we want to go to work. want to take the kids to school. want to go and do the shopping. and have a reasonable expectation that you will get home alive that night or have a home to come home to. i just think it's worth remembering that every now and then. we don't just look at this sort of blanket thing of a bunch of iraqis killing each other. it's not like that. there's a lot of unbelievable
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people there who don't want any part of this. >> let's take a look at something that you and your crew shot. how recent was this? >> this was when i was there in january in baghdad. and it was -- i always -- it's one of my things when i go to these places. i always try to tell part of the story through the eyes of regular people. and we came across this -- this family who had been through the most unbelievable agony. and were continuing to live that unbelievable agony through no fault of their own. i think we've got a clip. >> reporter: a father's unimaginable grief. a mother's endless tears. and three children who barely comprehend what has happened to their family. >> he is no suhr gent. not a politician. they are a visceral human portrait of iraq's grinding violen violence. >> translator: we don't work with the government. we're simple people. we have nothing. we sell watermelons. >> reporter: their descent into
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agony began on july 23, 2007, when a bomb exploded a t the family's humble watermelon stall merely 50 meters from their home. son, ali, 19 years old and about to get married was killed instantly. i was a week away from ma rrying h him off. instead i buried him. life went on such as it was until july 20 last year. two other sons of abu ali, ala and abbas on duty at the watermelon stand when another bomb went off. ala 23 and by now a father of three, and brother abbas just 17, were killed in the hail of shrapnel. evidence of its power still etched in nearby walls today. the funeral turnout was huge. no one could believe what had happened to this family. ala and abbas taken to be with their brother. they're all gone, abu ali tells
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me. three sons. two bombings. a family destroyed. no one will call me dad anymore, he sobs. they were also our breadwinners. they supported us. now i have no income. i haven't paid the rent for seven months. >> you know what? he and his wife continue to look after the children of their sons. they've got these little kids, like 4 or 5 years old, and a baby that they're taking care of. they're in their 60s. they have nothing. watermelon stand. it's not an unusual story. that's the horrible part. >> just seeing the father and the tears and the pain. doesn't matter what language you speak. just our heart goes out to them. >> it's harder to take the bodies and things when you see what people go through. regular people. >> thank you for telling the story. i'm glad we found it and reshared it. >> thanks for hearing it. still to come, routine. his personal story. this is what bowe bergdahl is focusing on right now at a texas medical facility. we have new details from inside
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remember this video? three week since he walked into u.s. custody, into that blackhawk helicopter somewhere in afghanistan and out of the custody of the taliban. now bowe bergdahl is focusing about opening up. not just about what happened to him in the nearly five years he was a p.o.w. also about opening up his daily life to all the little things you and i take for granted. you know, brushing our teeth, hanging out, leisure activities, et cetera. bergdahl is undergoing the army's reintegration program at brooke army medical center in texas. cnn's martin savidge has been digging into the program, what bergdahl has been up to since he's been in texas. so let's just begin with what we know is happening inside this room. >> yeah. let me start off by saying first of all the military is not going to reveal to me the personal things about his diagnosis or anything that is rightly kept to him. however, they do talk about some of the details of his daily life. routine is very important now. he gets up at a normal time. eats his meals at a normal time. goes to bed at a normal time. he does that day in, day out.
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he's in a regular hospital room, they assure me. he is on a floor with other patients. he doesn't interact with a lot of them because primarily he's only interacting withle less th a dozen people. these are the specialists that are there to help him recover. he's also got security. i asked about that. >> mm-hmm. >> they say, look, it is not to keep him as a prisoner. it is not to keep him under guard. it is to prevent others, unauthorized people, from coming in. maybe surprising him. remember, they say, he's in a very delicate mental state. shock is not something they want. >> it's interesting. we were talking before we came on tv and you were saying he's also learning there were coping mechanisms he essentially taught himself while he would have been in the taliban hands for all those years he's having to unlearn. >> he is. the way the military will talk about that is that that's -- they won't talk specifically about him. they will just say all returnees that they have dealt with including bergdahl have had coping skills, mechanisms they used during their captivity to help them through the horror of what they were enduring. some people talk to themselves. some people go off to a place in the sky. whatever. but once you come back to normal
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life, if you were to act out those same kind of protective forces that you use, you seem weird. if you start talking to yourself in public, people are going to say, look out. he looks crazy. this is what they're talking about. unlearning those coping skills they needed during captivity. it's part of the process. >> fewer than a dozen people having access to him, contact with imhim, working with him. >> he tells them his story which is also important. recounting in his own words for the first time. >> from the beginning. >> yeah. it's not a 30-second synopsis. it is five years. as best he can tell day to day. >> as we were talking it's a matter of is this all for medical purposes? because it's all what he says happened to him and at what point could it be used in a court of law. we'll talk about that next hour with a military psychologist. don't know if we have the answer yet. >> legitimate point. >> thank you very much. coming up on cnn, world cup fever is hot, hot, hot. and the temperature in brazil even hotter. how steamy and sticky the humidity could get for the game in the amazon over the weekend.
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but the u.s., not too worried. >> we're used to it. we have teams coming over from europe that never play in humidity. they're cramping and complaining about it. for us, we're trying to use it to our advantage. >> we will talk to rachel nichols, who is standing by for us. does the u.s. have a chance against portugal? we'll break it down. talking world cup, next. means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing.g,
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world cup fever is scorching hot. really hot. deep in the steamy amazonian
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jungle of brazil the u.s. will take on portugal for world cup glory. sunday's showdown set in the jungle city of manaus, brazil. the mayor of manaus assures folks, quote, there are not poisonous snakes and tarantulas roaming through the streets and falling from the trees. that's a good thing. the heat. the heat. >> the humidity, it's no joke. we -- i play in major league soccer. so i play sometimes down in houston. and i'll have to say, the humidity down here is actually worse than it is in houston. >> that is saying something, isn't it, rachel nichols? host this is serious stuff, this soccer playing. i heard our sports reporter in brazil reporting earlier on the number of nostrils that clint dempsey is able to breathe out of with his broken nose. answer, one. that can't be easy in the amazon. >> reporter: exactly. look, there's all kinds of
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concerns here. we've seen, brooke, players play through all kinds of injuries. h they say, hey, your arm is falling off, stick a band-aid and tape on it, get back in there p. it's the world cup. we've seen players unfortunately play through concussions in this world cup. guys who probably shouldn't be out there. the thing you cannot play through is cramps. that is what can come up in these hot and humid conditions. cramps are basically your body's way of locking up, shutting down. saying we do not have the energy and hydration left to keep going at this pace. if you do, you will suffer heatstroke. instead, we will immobilize you. the whole point is to get your body to shut down. that is a huge concern. there are players who cramped throughout the last game. you have players who, yes, have played in major league soccer. there's also a lot of u.s. players now who are better frankly who are playing over in europe. who've been in europe for five or six years. they may be from the states where we have heat and humidity, but they don't play in those conditions very often. so in some ways they're just like the european players. it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out. >> and to hear him say it's
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hotter than houston. that's not nothing. when it comes to this match here, it's u.s. versus portugal. portugal star ronaldo playing with this hurt knee. one u.s. player says he's not worrying too much about ronaldo. here he was. >> i know there's reports out there that he might not play. but we don't believe those. we assume he's going to play. we feel like he's going to play. you know, he's the best player in the world right now. so there's no denying that. he's a great player. but at the same time, you know, we're not really focused on him. we're mostly focused on ourselves. we truly feel if the u.s. plays our best soccer, we're going to be able to win the game and advance to the next round. >> what do you think, rachel? you think he'll be playing? >> reporter: yeah. i mean, look, they're right. they got to plan for him to play. the expectation is he's going to play, try to give it everything he can. pictures surfaced today from
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practice of him in a knee brace, raising new questions. a portuguese newspaper this morning had an article quoting his personal doctor saying that he had advised ronaldo to sit down for the next two months, take himself out of the world cup. nobody expects that to happen. but it is a bit of a break if you want to say that about another player's injury. it is a bit of a break for the united states to be facing the best player in the world at less than 100%. they're also facing a portuguese team missing its best defender because that player got a red card in the last game. the team has other key injuries. they are hitting portugal at not portugal's strongest moment. not ronaldo's strongest moment. that could be good for the americans. >> nostrils and knee braces. somewhere john berman is smiling of the minutia we're getting into of the world cup. a reminder to all of you, don't miss rachel's world cup special "unguarded." an exclusive with new york yankee derek jeter. we'll watch you, rachel, tonight 10:30 eastern on cnn.
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i'm brooke baldwin. on iraq here, the terror group isis has shocked iraq and grabbed the rest of the world's attention with its ruthless sweep from syria into iraq's sunni heartland. shock number two has been the unexpected launch of the social media blitz that shows isis is not your average gang of heavily armed thugs. in fact, these thugs are quite social media savvy. and now we have this. perhaps the group's most polished production yet. a video circulating online today. apparently shot in syria in english, aimed at luring new recruits from the west. >> this is the land of jihad and the land of hiya. the land of living. we have brothers from bangladesh. from iraq. from cambodia. australia. uk. nothing has gathered us except to make a with the hayas. that's all we came for. >> jim clancy joins me from cnn international. quickly, we just got word that youtube -- let's show it, guys.
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youtube has yanked, the video has been removed. it violates the policy on vie lance. as you were saying, clancy, they will find other places to put that video out. >> plenty of other places that video is going to be seen. you're right. it's to recruit new people. right now there's a whole what they call a twitter storm. all eyes on isis. it's out there. that's the hashtag that they're using. people coming in, oh, yes, we support you from all over the world. these are mostly people that have never done much of anything in their lives. and they see this as very exciting. >> but in english. >> yes. >> are they trying to recruit disaffected europeans? americans? >> they're trying to get anybody they can. they need numbers. we estimate them to be about 10,000 strong. that's not that -- that many. and they lose a lot of people in these suicide bombings. and i have looked at the recruitment process. when u.s. troops were in iraq, they captured data from the al qaeda in iraq. the precedent for this group. and it showed very clearly that
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they got young men in, they were sponsored, they had money for training and they sign add form. and they didn't need them to fight. they needed them to be the suicide bombers. and the young men that sign up for this are going to, indeed, be suicide bombers. >> that's what they're signing up for whether they realize it or not. >> whether they realize it or not. now -- >> let me read this quote to you. this is from a middle east analyst about the isis propaganda campaign. there's money behind it. they aren't just idiots. these idiots have somebody controlling them and providing them with equipment that is very expensive. nuri al maliki says they're getting the money from saudi arabia. saudi arabia says no. saudi arabia is a friend of the u.s. >> there's no doubt. they have so much money. when i lookeded at these records they have from al qaeda in iraq, they had so much money they were sending it back. they had too much. it's coming in from donors in europe, in the middle east. private donors that are funneling all of this money in. now add to that, isis has captured huge arm stock part-times right there in iraq. >> and banks.
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mosul. and cash. >> i've heard tens of millions i've heard hundreds of millions. but they're looting. they use extortion. they put a tax on christians. so they have to pay into the organization. all of these things, they are not poor. they have the money to carry it out. they can pay their fighters more than the iraqi army. >> jim clancy, thank you. at least youtube took it down. as you point out, it will be elsewhere. thank you so much. coming up, a cure for baldness? this is his head before. and this is his head now. that's quite a difference. what happened? apparently, it's a special kind of drug not for baldness at all, but something else. arthritis? then a fourth grader says he was threatened, beaten up, bullied. now he's taking action, seeing another fourth grader. and his school. can you really do that, sue a fourth grader? we'll discuss with lawyers, coming up here on cnn. surrender to the power of accomodation grooveland
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a drug used to treat rheumatoid arthritis is showing promise as a cure for a severe form of baldness. so here's the example. a totally bald 25-year-old regrew a full head of hair and more. look at that. after the doctor gave him the drug. so before you try to get this drug, you need to know a few things to do that. let's bring in our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. so give me the caveats. >> okay. the biggest caveat here is that that gentleman that you just saw had a specific disease. he actually had an autoimmune disease. his doctor said, hmm, i'm wondering if maybe the treatment for you is already in the pharmacy. >> reporter: this is kyle rhoades' head before. and here it is after. a thick, full head of hair. >> i've gotten a lot of comments about how great my hair is coming in. and how lovely of a hair color it is. i find myself a lot of times just playing with it.
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>> reporter: what was the trick? no, not rogaine or propecia. they grow hair only on parts of the scalp. it for sure wasn't whatever homer simpson took. >> i have hair. i have hair! >> reporter: it was a pill. a drug called zeljans that's actually already on the market for, of all things, arthritis. kyle's doctor at yale university decided to give it a try. and eight months later, voila. kyle, who's 25, started losing hair all over his body at age 2 because of an unusual form of alopecia. >> the neighborhood kids, school, just jokes. rogaine comments. one thing i did get when i was completely bald is called a skinhead. which i found very offensive. >> reporter: but now, even his eyelashes and eyebrows are back. 6.5 million people have a skin disease like kyle's. his doctor says the drug may one day help them, too. but what about the tens of millions of men who've just gone bald as they've gotten older?
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the doctor doesn't think the drug will help them, but he does think it's worth doing a study to find out. the drug can have serious side effects. kyle hasn't had any, and he's enjoying his new head of hair. >> i've always wanted an '80s hockey mullet. so maybe going towards that. >> oh, my gosh. i love him. >> i had to look up what an '80s hockey mullet was. >> i can only imagine. >> i wanted to talk a little bit about why would an arthritis drug do this. >> connect the dots. >> rheumatoid arthritis is an auto immune disease. the kind of alopecia he has is an autoimmune disease. they have a similar basis. >> so if you don't have this kind of autoimmunity, therefore you won't have the hockey mullet that he got. >> right. the doctors don't think that you will. the doctors i talked to. now, one of them said, look, we should study it. who knows. you never know what you're going to find out. another doctor said, eh, no way. this would never work for regular old male pattern baldness. this could be great news for people with his form of alopecia. >> love that. love his sense of humor. >> he is adorable.
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>> and his do. he's rocking it. elizabeth, thank you very much. in this week's human factor a young woman uses the tragedy that left her paralyzed to help others. here's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. >> reporter: at 14 years old, sabrina cohen was your average teenager. she was building a social life. simp wily trying to fit in. when a few older boys offered sabrina and her friends a ride to a party, they jumped a t the chance. >> i just remember being concerned with things like not putting my seat belt on because i wanted to look cool. >> reporter: getting into that car and not buckling up was a decision that would cost her dearly. >> within minutes they took off drag racing down one of miami beach's most dangerous streets about 90 miles per hour. the other car lost control. hit the car that i was in. we hit a tree. and i instantly became a quadriplegic. >> reporter: sabrina spent the first several months in denial. >> i was more like, oh, i'm going to work out and i'm going to walk again. >> reporter: it wasn't until she saw others with her condition that the reality set in.
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after several months of grueling rehab and soul searching, sabrina decided to use her experience to help others. >> my principal approached me and said to me, would you do our school a favor and talk to the seniors about reckless driving? and that was -- that was the start of my mentorship and public speaking and motivational speaking. >> reporter: she graduated at the top of her class from high school. on time. and then she went on to get a dual degree in advertising and psychology from the university of miami. a few years after college, she started the sabrina cohen foundation. >> my mental and fitness well-being has always played such an important role in keeping me healthy and active and able to do what i do. so my focus now is to basically allocate funds to people who can't afford to get the best therapy. >> reporter: and she says leading by example, especially when talking to children, is key. >> i think i am an example that
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life can go on. and you can live a full life, as i do. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. she keeps you on your toes.
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problem. the alleged bully, who happens to be a rising fourth grader. you heard me right. a fourth grader is being sued here. his alleged victim's attorney told tv station wmaq he would go as far as to garnish, take the boy's future earnings, his wages. this boy referred to as c.a. in the court documents with parents, school, principal all named. they say they repeatedly went to the principal of this robert frost elementary school about c.a., attacking joaquin. they even filed police reports. the lawsuit lists 12 different incidents of joaquin being pushed, kicked and elbowed. even more, they say, during this past school year. >> it escalated in events, sometimes as much as threats on my son's life as well as spitting, hitting, kicking. one time he was choking him and told him he was going to go home and get a knife and come back
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and stab him until he was dead. >> he became consumed more with fear rather than a willingness and a want and an eagerness to learn. >> let's have a big discussion about this. cnn legal analyst danny savalos is joining me as well as kelly wallace. when you read the allegations, they're horrendous. but, danny, legally speaking, can a fourth grader sue a fourth grader? >> oh, a fourth grader can absolutely sue a fourth grader. assault and battery in the civil context doesn't make a distinction when you get to a -- when you get to human versus human. certainly the level of intent of a child has to be questioned. but the cases have gone back many, many years. some of the seminal cases in law school are children committing assault on another child. the real question is can you hold a school, which is usually a government institution, liable for the assault and battery.
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remember, those are intentional tort torts. the assault of another child. the school does stand at some level as the legal parents while the children are there. at the same time, they enjoy a significant amount of what we call immunity. it is exceedingly difficult to sue a government entity. much easier to sue the u.p.s. truck than a post office truck. >> okay. kelly, i want your reaction. i'm dying for your reaction. first let me read this from the school district. this is what they say as part of the statement. as a district and at each of our schools we value the safety and security of each and every one of our students and staff members and take bullying and prevention seriously. we work diligently to provide a healthy, productive environment for all our students to learn and grow. my question to you, kelly, is more overarching. to think in this society in 2014 that we have fourth graders suing fourth graders. >> right. exactly. my reaction to this was just such sadness. right? what is the world coming to?
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you both will remember, right, not too long ago where a mom was so frustrated that, you know, her daughter was being repeatedly bullied on the school bus, the school was doing nothing about it, so she posted this video on facebook, if you remember, of that girl. tearful video of this girl because she felt like that was the only way to get people's attention. so, to me, this shows a desperation on the part of parents when they feel like the school is not doing anything, the principal is not doing anything, and the school district is not doing anything. and right, danny, you have to agree, it shows that we clearly have to be doing more in some way to prevent families like this one from feeling like their only recourse is a lawsuit. >> you bring up parents. and i want your thoughts on the parents issue. i'm wondering onus on the parents as well. they also, danny, if you read through this lawsuit, the alleged victim's family went as far as to saying to the bullier's parents, you need to take your kid and report him to the department of children and family services. to me, i understand their
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complaints, that sounds so extreme. >> yeah. >> yes. especially reporting to dhs or whatever the government agency that watches over our children. because once you -- it's an unreasonable request. once you report a child to dhs, they open a case, and that case could potentially end with the termination of parental rights. so the idea that another parent might actually turn their kid into the department of whatever the appropriate services are, child services, depending on the state, is a little unrealistic. so, too, is the idea that you might garnish a 6-year-old's future wages. garnishing an adult's wages is difficult enough. >> right. to think of a child's upcoming wages. and then, kelly, what about mom and dad? mom and dad for both sides. >> right. i mean, you know, we talk about this and we do story after story. you know, sometimes children are modeling behavior that they see from their parents. i'm not here on national television saying that the alleged bully's parents are bullies. but i think the onus is really on parents in terms of how we treat other people and how our
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children watch that. and also really in terms of empowering bystanders, right? kids who are watching bullying to take action. and having the students get involved in the solutions to bullying. so often schools have these zero tolerance policies. you know, you bully, you're out. and it's -- it's coming from the top down. i think many people feel like, we got to get the students involved, to have them kind of coming up with the solutions. that's one way that they might, you know, create a better climate of empathy and compassion and not having lawsuits where students are suing students because that's -- they feel like that's their only action. >> it seems like, we talk so much about instances such as bullying across the country. at least it seems like some schools are doing the right thing. we'll watch and see if the lawsuit has legs. dan danny cevallos and kelly wallace. still to come, harley davidson. take a new hog on the road. the motorcycle manufacturer is charging up with a new design. i don't know if you have a harley if you're going to like this one. also ahead, you see this?
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the cia apparently planned to turn kids and their parents against osama bin laden by handing out this doll in afghanistan. how the creator of g.i. joe helped design this devilish looking obl.
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all right. listen, i don't have a harley. i know some people who do. i think this is going to make them cringe. my apologies. part of the allure, i hear, of a harley is the rumble of the engine. [ engine revving ] and the harley crowd isn't exactly a prius crowd. quiet. that could be changing. harley davidson is testing an electric motorcycle, a quieter fuel efficient hog, if you will. i was trying to find a parallel.
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a porsche that goes 50 miles an hour. >> that's an insult to what harley is doing. call it how you see it. harley is telling us the sound this electric bike is going to make is cool. i really don't know what cool is. we'll have to find out at some point for ourselves. also one other thing about this electric bike, if you want to kind of ride on the open road with the wind going through your hair and just riding endlessly -- >> no. we have helmets on, alison. no wind through our hair. >> that's true. ooh. >> i'm with you. >> anyway, the point here i'm trying to make is that you're going to need more charging stations. because this test bike, right now it's just a test bike, can only go 53 miles. even though harley says it's planning on installing other charging stations across the country once it gets this bike in motion. this is just a test bike right now. it's going to fan out 33 bikes across the country starting on monday. actually in manhattan it's going to start testing out these bikes. they are not for sale yet. >> not for sale yet.
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i'm just messing with you because i adore you. while i have you, alison kosik, speaking of motorcycles, have you seen this crazy video? watch this with me. motorcycle accident. this thing was caught on camera. we'll spotlight it for you. the motorcycle goes through this intersection. ooh. >> oh, my god. >> i know! gets clipped by a car. the guy tumbles over the car. i'm sure we'll watch it again. here he goes. over it. like an acrobat. almost -- >> speaking of helmet, brooke, look, he's not wearing a helmet. thank god he's not wearing flip-flops. i've seen what that can do. this is the reality of a motorcycle. this guy gets up, what is he? a cat? he has nine lives. >> he wasn't hurt. that's obviously why we're showing it to you. he was okay. police say the car actually turned after the light was red. but he's a-okay. just stunning. >> and his bike was totalled. but he walked away. amazing. >> amazing. alison, thank you. have a wonderful weekend. have a wonderful weekend. top of the hour starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. right now violent jihadists too extreme for even al qaeda are in control of a former chemical weapons facility in iraq. inside this plant, you have these stockpiles of old weapons. once produced here, mustard gas, sarin, vx. that's a nerve agent. in fact, you're looking at video that we have pulled from the cnn vault today shot by cnn's nic robertson and his crew back in 2002. cnn has this exclusive look inside. >> reporter: numbered and tagged, rows of rusting chemical car fare equipment lie in a rotting warehouse. the site, almuthana. birthplace of iraq's biowarfare program and heart of its chemical research and production in the 1980s. apparently left in ruin. what gulf war bombing didn't destroy in 1991, u.n. weapons inspectors did in the